Post by Wayne Hall on Mar 30, 2011 3:13:41 GMT -5
Dear Sirs,
All these messages you received after the broadcast of "Bye Bye Blue Sky" are no surprise for me. Whatever the objective elements one can bring like analyses or the fact that the French army bought 10 tons of barium sulfate without any explanation of their use, or whatsoever, you will receive such messages from so-called and self-proclaimed "debunker".
I have been investigating the field of the climate and chemtrails for more than 7 years. I have read dozens of books, studies, reports on the subject. In January, I finished the writing of a book which title is "The Manipulation Of The Climate By The Military".
The "weather modification" (the official word for it) has already a long history. The first official trial dates back as far as 1891 with the experiment made in the Staked Plains in Texas by General Dyrenforth. The US Congress allowed $10,000 for it but stopped after 2 years due to poor results (I bought American newspapers from that period to know exactly what happened).
But the spraying of chemicals in the sky by the military has also a long history. The first trial to modify the weather with planes certainly happened in 1924 in the USA, when the Army Air Service equipped 2 planes according to the instructions of Dr. Emory Leon Chaffee, a physicist at Harvard.
The American military was not the only one to do such experiments: the Russians, the Chinese and certainly others also tried. I read, for example, that the Chinese army sprayed deolin in 1930 above Hong-Kong to fight a terrible drought.
That was still the beginning and the real start happened after 1946 with the discovery of Dr. V. Schaeffer of General Electric: in spraying silver iodide into the clouds, it makes them rain. Thousands of experiments have then been done in the world, of course also by the military. For the USA, it was mainly the Naval Air Weapons Station at the China Lake base in northern California which was in charge of these experiments at the start.
Spraying chemicals in the sky became usual for the American military (and others) for example to fight hurricanes, with the long-lasting projects Cirrus (1947-1952) and Stormfury (1961-1983).
The first official use of the spraying of chemicals to modify the weather at war was done in Vietnam, under the code name of Operation Popeye. From 1967 to 1972, about 2,700 flights were made to spray chemicals over Vietnam and Laos. Almost until the end of the operation, the military succeeded in keeping it secret. The story was broke off only in 1971 and it is documented through a hearing which happened at the U.S. Congress on March 20, 1974 (it has been printed in a small book which title and references are ''Prohibition of weather modification as a weapon of war: Hearing before the Subcommittee on International Organizations of the Committee on International ... first session, H. Res. 28 ... July 29, 1975'' - I have it, of course).
I said that the Pentagon is not the only one to have been using sprayings: the British too have done it. The BBC revealed in 2001 that the flood in 1952 which devastated the small city of Lynmouth, killing 34 people, was due to experiments of the RAF on the Operation Cumulus (the story is in The Guardian: www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/aug/30/sillyseason.physicalsciences).
Despite all evidences brought by the BBC, the goverment denied it and refused to open any investigation.
Modifying the weather is one thing, poisoning the people is another. In 1997, at the request of the Congress, the U.S. National Research Council (NRC) issued an astonishing report which title is "Toxicological assessment of the U.S. Army's zinc cadmium sulphide dispersion tests". It explains that 40 years earlier, in the 1950s and 1960s, the "U.S. Army released the chemical compound zinc cadmium sulfide from airplanes, rooftops and moving vehicules in 33 urban and rural areas of the United States". Cities as large as Minneapolis and St. Louis were targeted. Of course, the NRC and its experts concluded that it was not dangerous. The reading of the whole report is not that convincing at all... The military also said they didn't know exactly anymore where these experiments happened and files had disappeared...
We also learn from this report that the British and the Scandinavians have made at the same period the same experiments against the people and the environment during almost 40 years! The Observer investigated the subject and it can be read on The Guardian website (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience). "Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told." The aftermath were terrible, but again, as in the U.S., distinguished experts concluded 4 decades later that these experiments were harmless for the population and the environement. And the case had then been closed.
Guess what? While they were spraying over the people in the USA, the UK and elsewhere, of course there were "experts" explaining that those trails in the sky were absolutely normal. For example, in the Free-Lance Star of May 6, 1972, it can be read that "the familiar contrails often left by high-flying planes might persist for a long time under some conditions". Similarly, in the book Clouds of the World: A Complete Color Encyclopedia published in 1972, it is explained in Chapter 11 – Condensation trails, that these strange-looking persistent trails are normal. In some American films or TV series of that period, you can watch them. An obvious example: the episode n°25 of the first season of ZORRO, broadcast in 1957-58 (there were only two seasons). You will notice these persistent trails, mainly during the race. Of course, they are persistent because we see the trails, but (fortunately) not the planes...
In her book "Planet Earth, The Latest Weapon Of War", Dr. Rosalie Bertell writes that "the US and Canada had been cooperating in weather modification experiments since 1958. (…) The Churchill CRM (Chemical Release Modules) programme involved various barium compounds, including barium azide, barium chlorate, barium nitrate, barium perchlorate and barium peroxide. All are combustible and most are destructive of the ozone layer. In a 1980 programme, some 2000 kilograms of chemicals were dumped into the atmosphere, including 1000 kg of barium and 100 kg of lithium. Lithium is a highly reactive toxic chemical that is very easily ionised by the sun's rays."
For those who could try to explain to us that all these experiments have been stopped since a long time, here is an excerpt of a private communication of October 2010 with Dr. Rosalie Bertell: "On 19 September 2010, the US Navy sent up a rocket from its base in Virginia and placed an aluminum oxide artificial clouds some 500 miles above the Earth over the east coast. The highest natural cloud is about 50 miles. They caused a large cloud shadow which brought early snow to the east coast. Even Baltimore had snow and had to ask Canada to borrow some snow plows. The US Naval Reserve has removed this project from their web site since I began to talk about it. Who knows what else they may be doing? They do not need to go through an environmental assessment since no one’s property is involved (since no one owns the sky)! I am guessing at the numbers but I think I am close. According to the original plan, they intended to try this experiment also over Singapore."
As I said above, I wrote a book on the subject, so, of course, I could tell a lot more about all these military experiments and "business as usual" operations of sprayings which have been lasting now for more than 60 years. Who could dare say that this does not exist? Is this "conspiracy theory"? Everyone can check all the information above as it comes from official reports and mainstream medias like the BBC, The Guardian, etc.
Let's talk now about the film. Of course, I interviewed scientists (one of these distinguished people is a meteorologist member of the IPCC), who told me that chemtrails do not exist and everything is a contrail. But wen I asked, during the interview, if they have made analyses of any kind to support their affirmations, of course they had not. In fact, they had not studied the phenomenon at all: they knew the "official answer", and delivered it, that's all. This is no science but politics.
When I also asked them how is it possible to find such quantities of barium at the surface of sandbox in Paris and anywhere where these trails appear often, of course they had no explanation...
And I don't talk about the 10 tons of barium sulfate that the French army bought: no expert nor any scientist could give me an explanation of their possible use... And I remind, as is said in the film, that the French military removed the information from their website immediately after my visit and recording of the information... Why?
So, these scientists are not in the documentary: wearing a white coat and being officially a scientist is not enough. To be relevant requires to have studied the subject or worked on it. It is a respect to the people and the audience. Furthermore, the ''official answer'' is already in the film with this excerpt of the U.S. Air Force brochure declaring that chemtrails are a hoax. So, I clearly focused on scientists who had really studied this phenomenon of persistent trails: all of them have been doing it for years.
I read from the emails you received that some doubts have been cast on them. Is it worth answering? Dr. Rosalie Bertell is a great Lady with so numerous references, achievements, awards, and so on! In June, she had been again invited at the United Nations on questions of disarmament. For example, she had been Director of the International Medical Commission Bhopal which investigated the aftermath of the Bhopal disaster in India, organizer of the International Medical Commission Chernobyl, she had worked on the Reagan Starwar project, etc., etc. And she is one of the few scientists quoted in the european Theorin Report (1999), that everybody should have read.
The references and achievements of Dr. Nikos Katsaros are also impressive. Furtermore, he relentless speaks and writes on the subject, even in parliaments and institutions which invite him. And Dr. Coen Vermeeren, as an expert in aeronautics, he is really committed to the subject and had been investigating it with all his efforts and humility for years.
Of course, documented information can be found elsewhere. The German channel RTL9 broadcast a reportage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsQ2KnIvH0&feature=more_related) where meteorologists lead by Karsten Brandt have forced the German army to recognize that they sprayed chemicals in the sky in 2005 and 2006.
Many analyses can be also found on the Internet (http://www.carnicom.com/flame1.htm). It is incredible to listen to what Dr Hildegarde Stanninger says on the analyses she had done, with the clear link between chemtrails and Morgellons disease in cases in Texas and elsewhere (http://morgellons-info.blogspot.com/2010/11/morgellons-intervista-alla-dottoressa.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MorgellonsDiseasetankerEnemy+%28Morgellons+Disease+%28Tanker+Enemy%29%29
Air controller start also to speak (read an article by William Thomas, who has been investigating for so long about chemtrails, on www.rense.com/general20/cc.htm).
You can read also what Dr. R. Michael Castle writes about chemtrails: "In this century, we believe we are witnessing the gradual, purposeful demise of the Earth's Natural System. There are those who will debunk/dis-info all that is written regarding the subject of this paper: ChemTrails. What's this? ChemTrails are only a vague description, in lay-terms, of a greater theater of toxic materials being released into the atmosphere/stratosphere, for a myriad of crude and toxic agendas."
I could add so many more informations, but I stop the list, because this email is long already... I hope it will help you. As I wrote at the beginning, you can use it as you need.
To finish, I want to greet your courage and your sense of responsibility. Let's hope now that the people will question their politicians and get from them that the military stops all this stuff.
Kind regards,
Patrick Pasin
Producer and director of "Bye Bye Blue Sky".
All these messages you received after the broadcast of "Bye Bye Blue Sky" are no surprise for me. Whatever the objective elements one can bring like analyses or the fact that the French army bought 10 tons of barium sulfate without any explanation of their use, or whatsoever, you will receive such messages from so-called and self-proclaimed "debunker".
I have been investigating the field of the climate and chemtrails for more than 7 years. I have read dozens of books, studies, reports on the subject. In January, I finished the writing of a book which title is "The Manipulation Of The Climate By The Military".
The "weather modification" (the official word for it) has already a long history. The first official trial dates back as far as 1891 with the experiment made in the Staked Plains in Texas by General Dyrenforth. The US Congress allowed $10,000 for it but stopped after 2 years due to poor results (I bought American newspapers from that period to know exactly what happened).
But the spraying of chemicals in the sky by the military has also a long history. The first trial to modify the weather with planes certainly happened in 1924 in the USA, when the Army Air Service equipped 2 planes according to the instructions of Dr. Emory Leon Chaffee, a physicist at Harvard.
The American military was not the only one to do such experiments: the Russians, the Chinese and certainly others also tried. I read, for example, that the Chinese army sprayed deolin in 1930 above Hong-Kong to fight a terrible drought.
That was still the beginning and the real start happened after 1946 with the discovery of Dr. V. Schaeffer of General Electric: in spraying silver iodide into the clouds, it makes them rain. Thousands of experiments have then been done in the world, of course also by the military. For the USA, it was mainly the Naval Air Weapons Station at the China Lake base in northern California which was in charge of these experiments at the start.
Spraying chemicals in the sky became usual for the American military (and others) for example to fight hurricanes, with the long-lasting projects Cirrus (1947-1952) and Stormfury (1961-1983).
The first official use of the spraying of chemicals to modify the weather at war was done in Vietnam, under the code name of Operation Popeye. From 1967 to 1972, about 2,700 flights were made to spray chemicals over Vietnam and Laos. Almost until the end of the operation, the military succeeded in keeping it secret. The story was broke off only in 1971 and it is documented through a hearing which happened at the U.S. Congress on March 20, 1974 (it has been printed in a small book which title and references are ''Prohibition of weather modification as a weapon of war: Hearing before the Subcommittee on International Organizations of the Committee on International ... first session, H. Res. 28 ... July 29, 1975'' - I have it, of course).
I said that the Pentagon is not the only one to have been using sprayings: the British too have done it. The BBC revealed in 2001 that the flood in 1952 which devastated the small city of Lynmouth, killing 34 people, was due to experiments of the RAF on the Operation Cumulus (the story is in The Guardian: www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/aug/30/sillyseason.physicalsciences).
Despite all evidences brought by the BBC, the goverment denied it and refused to open any investigation.
Modifying the weather is one thing, poisoning the people is another. In 1997, at the request of the Congress, the U.S. National Research Council (NRC) issued an astonishing report which title is "Toxicological assessment of the U.S. Army's zinc cadmium sulphide dispersion tests". It explains that 40 years earlier, in the 1950s and 1960s, the "U.S. Army released the chemical compound zinc cadmium sulfide from airplanes, rooftops and moving vehicules in 33 urban and rural areas of the United States". Cities as large as Minneapolis and St. Louis were targeted. Of course, the NRC and its experts concluded that it was not dangerous. The reading of the whole report is not that convincing at all... The military also said they didn't know exactly anymore where these experiments happened and files had disappeared...
We also learn from this report that the British and the Scandinavians have made at the same period the same experiments against the people and the environment during almost 40 years! The Observer investigated the subject and it can be read on The Guardian website (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience). "Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told." The aftermath were terrible, but again, as in the U.S., distinguished experts concluded 4 decades later that these experiments were harmless for the population and the environement. And the case had then been closed.
Guess what? While they were spraying over the people in the USA, the UK and elsewhere, of course there were "experts" explaining that those trails in the sky were absolutely normal. For example, in the Free-Lance Star of May 6, 1972, it can be read that "the familiar contrails often left by high-flying planes might persist for a long time under some conditions". Similarly, in the book Clouds of the World: A Complete Color Encyclopedia published in 1972, it is explained in Chapter 11 – Condensation trails, that these strange-looking persistent trails are normal. In some American films or TV series of that period, you can watch them. An obvious example: the episode n°25 of the first season of ZORRO, broadcast in 1957-58 (there were only two seasons). You will notice these persistent trails, mainly during the race. Of course, they are persistent because we see the trails, but (fortunately) not the planes...
In her book "Planet Earth, The Latest Weapon Of War", Dr. Rosalie Bertell writes that "the US and Canada had been cooperating in weather modification experiments since 1958. (…) The Churchill CRM (Chemical Release Modules) programme involved various barium compounds, including barium azide, barium chlorate, barium nitrate, barium perchlorate and barium peroxide. All are combustible and most are destructive of the ozone layer. In a 1980 programme, some 2000 kilograms of chemicals were dumped into the atmosphere, including 1000 kg of barium and 100 kg of lithium. Lithium is a highly reactive toxic chemical that is very easily ionised by the sun's rays."
For those who could try to explain to us that all these experiments have been stopped since a long time, here is an excerpt of a private communication of October 2010 with Dr. Rosalie Bertell: "On 19 September 2010, the US Navy sent up a rocket from its base in Virginia and placed an aluminum oxide artificial clouds some 500 miles above the Earth over the east coast. The highest natural cloud is about 50 miles. They caused a large cloud shadow which brought early snow to the east coast. Even Baltimore had snow and had to ask Canada to borrow some snow plows. The US Naval Reserve has removed this project from their web site since I began to talk about it. Who knows what else they may be doing? They do not need to go through an environmental assessment since no one’s property is involved (since no one owns the sky)! I am guessing at the numbers but I think I am close. According to the original plan, they intended to try this experiment also over Singapore."
As I said above, I wrote a book on the subject, so, of course, I could tell a lot more about all these military experiments and "business as usual" operations of sprayings which have been lasting now for more than 60 years. Who could dare say that this does not exist? Is this "conspiracy theory"? Everyone can check all the information above as it comes from official reports and mainstream medias like the BBC, The Guardian, etc.
Let's talk now about the film. Of course, I interviewed scientists (one of these distinguished people is a meteorologist member of the IPCC), who told me that chemtrails do not exist and everything is a contrail. But wen I asked, during the interview, if they have made analyses of any kind to support their affirmations, of course they had not. In fact, they had not studied the phenomenon at all: they knew the "official answer", and delivered it, that's all. This is no science but politics.
When I also asked them how is it possible to find such quantities of barium at the surface of sandbox in Paris and anywhere where these trails appear often, of course they had no explanation...
And I don't talk about the 10 tons of barium sulfate that the French army bought: no expert nor any scientist could give me an explanation of their possible use... And I remind, as is said in the film, that the French military removed the information from their website immediately after my visit and recording of the information... Why?
So, these scientists are not in the documentary: wearing a white coat and being officially a scientist is not enough. To be relevant requires to have studied the subject or worked on it. It is a respect to the people and the audience. Furthermore, the ''official answer'' is already in the film with this excerpt of the U.S. Air Force brochure declaring that chemtrails are a hoax. So, I clearly focused on scientists who had really studied this phenomenon of persistent trails: all of them have been doing it for years.
I read from the emails you received that some doubts have been cast on them. Is it worth answering? Dr. Rosalie Bertell is a great Lady with so numerous references, achievements, awards, and so on! In June, she had been again invited at the United Nations on questions of disarmament. For example, she had been Director of the International Medical Commission Bhopal which investigated the aftermath of the Bhopal disaster in India, organizer of the International Medical Commission Chernobyl, she had worked on the Reagan Starwar project, etc., etc. And she is one of the few scientists quoted in the european Theorin Report (1999), that everybody should have read.
The references and achievements of Dr. Nikos Katsaros are also impressive. Furtermore, he relentless speaks and writes on the subject, even in parliaments and institutions which invite him. And Dr. Coen Vermeeren, as an expert in aeronautics, he is really committed to the subject and had been investigating it with all his efforts and humility for years.
Of course, documented information can be found elsewhere. The German channel RTL9 broadcast a reportage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsQ2KnIvH0&feature=more_related) where meteorologists lead by Karsten Brandt have forced the German army to recognize that they sprayed chemicals in the sky in 2005 and 2006.
Many analyses can be also found on the Internet (http://www.carnicom.com/flame1.htm). It is incredible to listen to what Dr Hildegarde Stanninger says on the analyses she had done, with the clear link between chemtrails and Morgellons disease in cases in Texas and elsewhere (http://morgellons-info.blogspot.com/2010/11/morgellons-intervista-alla-dottoressa.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MorgellonsDiseasetankerEnemy+%28Morgellons+Disease+%28Tanker+Enemy%29%29
Air controller start also to speak (read an article by William Thomas, who has been investigating for so long about chemtrails, on www.rense.com/general20/cc.htm).
You can read also what Dr. R. Michael Castle writes about chemtrails: "In this century, we believe we are witnessing the gradual, purposeful demise of the Earth's Natural System. There are those who will debunk/dis-info all that is written regarding the subject of this paper: ChemTrails. What's this? ChemTrails are only a vague description, in lay-terms, of a greater theater of toxic materials being released into the atmosphere/stratosphere, for a myriad of crude and toxic agendas."
I could add so many more informations, but I stop the list, because this email is long already... I hope it will help you. As I wrote at the beginning, you can use it as you need.
To finish, I want to greet your courage and your sense of responsibility. Let's hope now that the people will question their politicians and get from them that the military stops all this stuff.
Kind regards,
Patrick Pasin
Producer and director of "Bye Bye Blue Sky".