Post by Wayne Hall on Jul 4, 2008 10:48:04 GMT -5
From: Stephanie Sutton <ssutton23@gmail.com>
Date: May 23, 2008 8:59:46 PM GMT-05:00
On Sat. May 17th, I attended the California Chemtrail Convergence at the Emmanuel Presbyterian Church at 3300 Wilshire Blvd. in Los Angeles. Below is a summary from the notes that I took.
There were about 200 people attending this event and it began with a video showing Chemtrails throughout the globe with the music "Blue Skies" in the background. Beautifully done but extremely disturbing to watch. Next came the recognition (and appreciation) of the various Skywatch reps from around the country.
The Sponsors for the event were: Good Karma PR, Carnicom.com,The Right to Breathe Healthy Air, LosAngelesSkywatch, ArizonaSkywatch, NewYorkSkywatch BakersfieldSkywatch, OregonSkywatch, Wisconsin Chemtrail Report, Missouri Skywatch and ContrailsMyAss.com.
The Media Sponsors were: In Your Face Radio www.inyourfaceradio.net/ and KPFK (90.7 FM) both in Los Angeles www.kpfk.org/
The two main speakers were Clifford Carnicom and Gwen Scott ND.
Clifford Carnicom has been a researcher on the aerosol operations (aka Chemtrails) for the past nine years. His work examines a broad range of applications including environmental control, military, electromagnetic, surveillance and geophysical applications, biological operations and geophysical considerations. He has produced an award-winning, non-profit documentary on the aerosol issue that is distributed worldwide. Currently a computer consultant, Clifford was a research scientist and federal employee for 15 years with three different agencies, including the U.S. Department of Defense. He has held a high level security clearance. His research can be found at www.Carnicom.com.
Dr. Gwen Scott, ND is a Naturopathic Doctor and Former CNN News Anchor. She is a Master Herbalist and has studied with the prominent alternative medicine practitioner, Dr. Deepak Chopra. She has also studied with traditional healers in the Latino/Hispanic and Native American communities. Currently she writes a natural health column for Prime Time New Mexico as well as giving speeches and seminars to community groups, hospitals and schools on natural medicine.
Clifford Carnicom began the lecture and presented his material with the utmost care not to indulge in exposing his details with any alarming language but rather to slowly dissect what has been analyzed in the particulates and to explain what the effects are. Carnicom has been researching aerosol spraying for the past nine years and stated that (according to the BBC) in a recent 40 year study - we have witnessed a 25-30% reduction of all life-forms in the last 10 years - a rate that is extremely alarming. He believes that the aerosol spraying is playing a huge roll in this as the aerosol spraying operation began in 1999 and remains an undisputed cause of global dimming. He also said that we are breathing 20% less oxygen than the dinosaurs breathed and wondered how it is that we're all still here. I'm still trying to find links at his website to back up these statements but have not found anything as yet.
He broke his research into three areas: ionizable metallic salts, the ionosphere and plasma. The ionizable metallic salts are sub-micron in size and his main point was how small the ions are and how conductive they are in altering the electrical conductivity of the earth's atmosphere. These particles are less than 1 micron and he gave the example of one strand of hair being 60 to 100 microns and red blood cells are 8 microns in diameter. The compounds released by the aerosol spraying is electrically charging the ionosphere and creating a plasma field likening it to the gas produced in a neon tube.
He said that for the last nine years he's been running HEPA filters continuously and here is the list of particulates that have been identified: Barium, which can cause MS and Parkinson-type symptoms as well as Titanium and Aluminum and Magnesium and strange sub-micron fibers and worse still, red blood cells which are biological pathogens and fungus. He said that the fungus was intelligent and aggressive and gathers metallic particles to itself and then "stabs" at "our" immune system. He spoke briefly about Morgellons disease to describe these fibers, being silicone based and foreign to the body and hence, the body tries to release them through the skin.
Next, Gwen Scott ND came on stage and went into more detail on Morgellons and said that these fibers are florescent and that we are all carrying them to some degree. She claims that if you swirl red wine or better, organic grape juice in your mouth for about 3 minutes and then spit it out in a white bowl you will see all these perfect fibrous particles that are uniformly one quarter of an inch long. Needless to say, Patrick and I both thought this idea was off the wall but suggested we all try it and see for ourselves. She said that if you take a tablespoon of purified diatomaceous earth in water every day, this will pull these substances out of your body. She mentioned Permaguard (www.permaguard.com) and said to get a 15 lb. bag. The other remedies she recommends are three formulas from the Santa Fe Herbs Co. - Deep Health and Yeast Relief and Miracle Two. Gwen Scott does not have a website yet but she said it will be out soon at: www.gwenscottnd.com
My personal observations
I was very anxious for this event to bring new information to the table and to launch new incentives for all of us to figure out what to do about this global assault with multiple ways in which we could instigate citizen awareness. None of that happened. In fact, I was so frustrated by the slow, methodical delivery and the cautious approach to the subject matter that I had to wonder if the speakers were too concerned for their welfare to reveal all that they knew. It was very clear that both presenters and the organizers did not want to rock the boat and I forgot to mention that the MC in the beginning told us that it took them months to find a venue that would even allow them to hold this meeting and thanked the church profusely for letting "it" happen. It was very apparent to me (once again) that this topic has so much secrecy surrounding it that everyone seemed only capable of talking about it as if it's something that we're just now learning about and that the intent of the spraying is yet to be unearthed. Theories abound but the haze remains. It was like being at a meeting in the 30's with someone talking dispassionately about the extermination of the Jews in Nazi Germany as everyone listened politely. Btw, it was a clear blue sky at 4 p.m. that day but by 8:00 we were being sprayed over head. Pat has an interesting side story and I'll have him tell you that story now.
Patrick's comments:
I took a break from the lecture at about 6:00 and went out to the front steps of the Church. There was a man yelling at a few others who were taking a break and asking what is the difference between a cloud and a chemtrail. He was with another man who was watching. A few minutes later, an LAPD cruiser showed up. It soon became apparent that the two gentlemen had called the police. They demanded that the police break up the meeting and arrest the presenters. The two officers, to their credit, told the men that the meeting was lawful and that they should go home and stop creating a spectacle. Were they 'agent provocateurs? Sent by black ops to create a scene? Whatever, they did not succeed. I looked up above the church and there were two jets laying out twin chemtrails at the same moment. I went back inside and finished listening with Stephanie.
There was a question and answer period at the end and the energy picked up significantly. One of the questions was "where can we go?" Gwen Scott said she had just recently moved to Maui to get away from the heavy spraying in Albuquerque, New Mexico. She said as long as you took care of your body and did the cleanses she recommended, you won't become ill from the spraying. If this event had taken place in 2002 it would have been insightful but given the years that have passed somehow it felt as if the only real defense we have at this point is to protect our immune systems and to teach others how to do the same.
I'm waiting to hear back from KPFK with a link for the audio on that day. I'll send it to you as soon as I get it.
To be forewarned is to be forearmed -
Stephanie
Date: May 23, 2008 8:59:46 PM GMT-05:00
On Sat. May 17th, I attended the California Chemtrail Convergence at the Emmanuel Presbyterian Church at 3300 Wilshire Blvd. in Los Angeles. Below is a summary from the notes that I took.
There were about 200 people attending this event and it began with a video showing Chemtrails throughout the globe with the music "Blue Skies" in the background. Beautifully done but extremely disturbing to watch. Next came the recognition (and appreciation) of the various Skywatch reps from around the country.
The Sponsors for the event were: Good Karma PR, Carnicom.com,The Right to Breathe Healthy Air, LosAngelesSkywatch, ArizonaSkywatch, NewYorkSkywatch BakersfieldSkywatch, OregonSkywatch, Wisconsin Chemtrail Report, Missouri Skywatch and ContrailsMyAss.com.
The Media Sponsors were: In Your Face Radio www.inyourfaceradio.net/ and KPFK (90.7 FM) both in Los Angeles www.kpfk.org/
The two main speakers were Clifford Carnicom and Gwen Scott ND.
Clifford Carnicom has been a researcher on the aerosol operations (aka Chemtrails) for the past nine years. His work examines a broad range of applications including environmental control, military, electromagnetic, surveillance and geophysical applications, biological operations and geophysical considerations. He has produced an award-winning, non-profit documentary on the aerosol issue that is distributed worldwide. Currently a computer consultant, Clifford was a research scientist and federal employee for 15 years with three different agencies, including the U.S. Department of Defense. He has held a high level security clearance. His research can be found at www.Carnicom.com.
Dr. Gwen Scott, ND is a Naturopathic Doctor and Former CNN News Anchor. She is a Master Herbalist and has studied with the prominent alternative medicine practitioner, Dr. Deepak Chopra. She has also studied with traditional healers in the Latino/Hispanic and Native American communities. Currently she writes a natural health column for Prime Time New Mexico as well as giving speeches and seminars to community groups, hospitals and schools on natural medicine.
Clifford Carnicom began the lecture and presented his material with the utmost care not to indulge in exposing his details with any alarming language but rather to slowly dissect what has been analyzed in the particulates and to explain what the effects are. Carnicom has been researching aerosol spraying for the past nine years and stated that (according to the BBC) in a recent 40 year study - we have witnessed a 25-30% reduction of all life-forms in the last 10 years - a rate that is extremely alarming. He believes that the aerosol spraying is playing a huge roll in this as the aerosol spraying operation began in 1999 and remains an undisputed cause of global dimming. He also said that we are breathing 20% less oxygen than the dinosaurs breathed and wondered how it is that we're all still here. I'm still trying to find links at his website to back up these statements but have not found anything as yet.
He broke his research into three areas: ionizable metallic salts, the ionosphere and plasma. The ionizable metallic salts are sub-micron in size and his main point was how small the ions are and how conductive they are in altering the electrical conductivity of the earth's atmosphere. These particles are less than 1 micron and he gave the example of one strand of hair being 60 to 100 microns and red blood cells are 8 microns in diameter. The compounds released by the aerosol spraying is electrically charging the ionosphere and creating a plasma field likening it to the gas produced in a neon tube.
He said that for the last nine years he's been running HEPA filters continuously and here is the list of particulates that have been identified: Barium, which can cause MS and Parkinson-type symptoms as well as Titanium and Aluminum and Magnesium and strange sub-micron fibers and worse still, red blood cells which are biological pathogens and fungus. He said that the fungus was intelligent and aggressive and gathers metallic particles to itself and then "stabs" at "our" immune system. He spoke briefly about Morgellons disease to describe these fibers, being silicone based and foreign to the body and hence, the body tries to release them through the skin.
Next, Gwen Scott ND came on stage and went into more detail on Morgellons and said that these fibers are florescent and that we are all carrying them to some degree. She claims that if you swirl red wine or better, organic grape juice in your mouth for about 3 minutes and then spit it out in a white bowl you will see all these perfect fibrous particles that are uniformly one quarter of an inch long. Needless to say, Patrick and I both thought this idea was off the wall but suggested we all try it and see for ourselves. She said that if you take a tablespoon of purified diatomaceous earth in water every day, this will pull these substances out of your body. She mentioned Permaguard (www.permaguard.com) and said to get a 15 lb. bag. The other remedies she recommends are three formulas from the Santa Fe Herbs Co. - Deep Health and Yeast Relief and Miracle Two. Gwen Scott does not have a website yet but she said it will be out soon at: www.gwenscottnd.com
My personal observations
I was very anxious for this event to bring new information to the table and to launch new incentives for all of us to figure out what to do about this global assault with multiple ways in which we could instigate citizen awareness. None of that happened. In fact, I was so frustrated by the slow, methodical delivery and the cautious approach to the subject matter that I had to wonder if the speakers were too concerned for their welfare to reveal all that they knew. It was very clear that both presenters and the organizers did not want to rock the boat and I forgot to mention that the MC in the beginning told us that it took them months to find a venue that would even allow them to hold this meeting and thanked the church profusely for letting "it" happen. It was very apparent to me (once again) that this topic has so much secrecy surrounding it that everyone seemed only capable of talking about it as if it's something that we're just now learning about and that the intent of the spraying is yet to be unearthed. Theories abound but the haze remains. It was like being at a meeting in the 30's with someone talking dispassionately about the extermination of the Jews in Nazi Germany as everyone listened politely. Btw, it was a clear blue sky at 4 p.m. that day but by 8:00 we were being sprayed over head. Pat has an interesting side story and I'll have him tell you that story now.
Patrick's comments:
I took a break from the lecture at about 6:00 and went out to the front steps of the Church. There was a man yelling at a few others who were taking a break and asking what is the difference between a cloud and a chemtrail. He was with another man who was watching. A few minutes later, an LAPD cruiser showed up. It soon became apparent that the two gentlemen had called the police. They demanded that the police break up the meeting and arrest the presenters. The two officers, to their credit, told the men that the meeting was lawful and that they should go home and stop creating a spectacle. Were they 'agent provocateurs? Sent by black ops to create a scene? Whatever, they did not succeed. I looked up above the church and there were two jets laying out twin chemtrails at the same moment. I went back inside and finished listening with Stephanie.
There was a question and answer period at the end and the energy picked up significantly. One of the questions was "where can we go?" Gwen Scott said she had just recently moved to Maui to get away from the heavy spraying in Albuquerque, New Mexico. She said as long as you took care of your body and did the cleanses she recommended, you won't become ill from the spraying. If this event had taken place in 2002 it would have been insightful but given the years that have passed somehow it felt as if the only real defense we have at this point is to protect our immune systems and to teach others how to do the same.
I'm waiting to hear back from KPFK with a link for the audio on that day. I'll send it to you as soon as I get it.
To be forewarned is to be forearmed -
Stephanie