From John Bursill:
Hello all,
Interesting film that has a basis in evidence and well established
historical patterns.
I'm not sure why he is so sure about exactly what happened with the
JFK assassination? Is really that certain that is exactly what
happened? Mind you what he says does ring true to me and he also as he
has Mark lane at the top of his sources gives me confidence, for in my
view Lane is the best researcher on the subject.
I wonder towards the end weather he realises that a lot of us 9/11
Truth Activists used an independent investigation as our "motive for
our cause" not expecting we would ever get one, rather as a reason to
allow us to justify our campaign of power corroding awareness of rich
men's tricks?
Seems a good film to pass around, unfortunate it comes across arrogant.
Kind regards John
From Wayne Hall
So far our household has only watched the first hour of the film but already I think I will be inclined to agree with the John Bursill's "arrogance" criticism, which doesn't detract entirely from the huge issues that the film examines but will quite possibly deny it the status of the film to end all films.
How many Germans will want their reputation for supporting Hitler to be "saved" in this particular way, and from this particular historical perspective? Is supporting Hitler the universal index for judging all evil? Do the Dulles brothers most manifest their evil through writing the Treaty of Versailles or through supporting Hitler, who tried, according to his own limited way of understanding things, to oppose this achievement of theirs?
The historian Mark Mazower has a more nuanced interpretation of Nazi Germany, including the treatment of Jews.
www.theguardian.com/education/2008/jul/01/academicexperts.highereducationprofileMazower is also good for bringing in another element that seems to be missing from the film: an understanding of the Balkan perspective. To describe Prince Philip simply as "a Nazi" overrides the element that he brought into the British royal family: the life experience of being the son of his father Prince Andrew, advisor and supporter to the later fascist (but anti-Mussolini and anti-Hitler) Greek dictator Metaxas, and his being scapegoated by Venizelist republicans for the Asia Minor disaster, despite the fact that his judgements, like those of Metaxas, were basically vindicated.
A study of European history with due inclusion of the role of Ioannis Capodistrias, a key European historical figure of the Napoleonic and post-Napoleonic period unfortunately little known outside of Greece (and Switzerland, whose constitution he wrote) could help to fill in some of the blanks.
In general it seems a worthwhile project, to explore the links between Kennedy's assassination and 911, and it could perhaps be even more worthwhile to take the story back further, to another assassination, in 1831 in Naplion, Greece, in order to help correct some of the deficiencies introduced by understanding of history too much influenced by 20th century "conventional wisdom".
Wayne Hall
Aegina, Greece
